This is way interessting inside view of stratfor contacts in china. the person (stratfor source) belongs to be the leader of one of the biggest jasmin revolution google groups and is/was in contact with stratfor intelligence agents via the demonstrations.Strfaor describes the Source as: ” Main person listed on the Jasmine google groups”
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MORE Re: INSIGHT- US/CHINA- Jasmine Googlegroup organizer on AP article
Date 2011-04-08 14:35:06
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*with coding this time.=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Still do not know how legit he is,
but he is willing to talk through the whole story of their
development.=C2=A0 this could become= a very good ongoing conversation,
and I will have to be careful with this analysis we are putting out
now.=C2=A0 ZZ, please take a look at the edit version and doublecheck my
bias towards his ‘majority in china’ argument [which I don’t believe].
SOURCE: CN507
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SOURCE DESCRIPTION: Main person listed on the Jasmine google
groups.=C2=A0=C2=A0
PUBLICATION: As needed.=C2=A0= =C2=A0
SOURCE RELIABILITY: C [still trying to feel this out]
ITEM CREDIBILITY: 3
SPECIAL HANDLING: none=C2=A0
SOURCE HANDLER: Sean
Yes, I am involved in “the Initiators” group at certain degree, though I
believe the word “the Initiators” is some kind of misleading, since no one
in this group really involved the organizing of the first gathering. I am
not involved in Hong Kong group. Recently, my role has been shifted to
coordinator to liaison between groups. I have connects to all groups
except one, which also calls themselves initiators. Based on very limit
information, I believe this group’s majority members located in China.
We indeed do have some kind of coordinate problem. Too many people want to
be in leading position. So far, at lease three groups have active members
in China. So the question is not the coordination but the communication,
how to let more people in China know there is such movement.
On 4/7/11 1:34 PM, Sean Noonan wrote:
This is all he said on the article below:
This group is one of the two largest currently. I reckon it ranks
second. The other one bases on Hong Kong.
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Subject: [OS] CHINA/US/CSM – AP Exclusive: Group in China protest
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AP Exclusive: Group in China protest calls emerges
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By GILLIAN WONG, Associated Press Gillian Wong, Associated Press
=E2=80=93 1 hr 40 mins ago
SEOUL, South Korea =E2=80=93 Strolling past hip cafes, the young Ch=
inese man in a white sports jacket and faded jeans looks like any other
university student in the South Korean capital. But the laptop in his
black backpack is a tool in a would-be revolution in China.
The 22-year-old computer science student is part of a group behind
appeals that started popping up anonymously on the Internet seven weeks
ago calling on Chinese to stage peaceful protests to get the ruling
Communist Party to move toward democracy. Those calls have spooked the
government into launching one of its broadest campaigns of repression in
years to keep the protests from catching on, as they have in the Middle
East and North Africa.
The Associated Press tracked down the student and some of his
colleagues, giving an exclusive first look at one group of campaigners
behind the online petitions, where they are based and how they use
technology to operate behind the anonymity of the Internet.
Their group, they said, is a network of 20 mostly highly educated, young
Chinese with eight members inside China and 12 in more than half a dozen
other countries.
Calling itself “The Initiators and Organizers of the Chinese Jasmine
Revolution” after a phrase used in the Tunisian uprising, the group is
not the sole source of the protest calls; at least four others have
sprung up. “The Initiators” group appears well-organized, with members
tasked to recruit, manage social networking sites and gather feedback.
Interviews with four members show similar evolutions: They grew to
resent the government’s autocratic rule and China’s widespread
inequality and injustice. The uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt made change
look possible.
“People born in the late ’80s and the ’90s have basically decided that
in their generation one-party rule cannot possibly outlive them, cannot
possibly even continue in their lifetimes. This is for certain,” the
lean, soft-spoken 22-year-old who goes by the Internet alias “Forest
Intelligence” told The AP in an interview Sunday at a cafe in Seoul’s
trendy Samcheong-dong district.
While the calls for weekly demonstrations every Sunday in dozens of
cities have attracted many onlookers and few outright protesters, their
impact is clear. The government has responded with more police on the
streets, more intrusive Internet monitoring and the detention,
disappearance or arrest of more than 200 people. Artist and government
critic Ai Weiwei seems to be the latest, taken into custody over the
weekend. The group said none of those detained have been involved with
their protest calls.
Members of the group requested anonymity out of concern that they or
their families might be targeted for retribution by the government,
which maintains an extensive network of informants among student groups
overseas. Most members know each other only by Internet nicknames.
They also are concerned that, with more than half their members outside
China, their movement might be seen as a foreign-backed, anti-China plot
rather than a response to real domestic problems.
“The revolution was started purely because of the failure of domestic
affairs, not because of overseas forces,” said “Hua Ge,” a Columbia
University graduate in classics who lives in New York and at 27 years
old is one of the group’s older members. He recruited the others.
The first online calls for a Chinese “Jasmine Revolution” =E2=80=94= a
Twitter post on Feb. 17 and a longer appeal on the U.S.-based Chinese
news site Boxun.com on Feb. 19 =E2=80=94 remain anonymous. = Soon after
they appeared, Hua Ge said that he, together with a man in China that he
refused to identify, started the website Molihuaxingdong.blogspot.com.
“Molihuaxingdong” is Chinese for “Jasmine Movement” and it has evolved
to include a Facebook page, a Twitter feed, and Google groups for every
Chinese province or territory. Many of the sites are blocked in China,
but remain effective because so many Chinese know how to elude
government blocks, said Hua Ge.
“People need to have some change in their thinking,” said Hua Ge, a
native of the central Chinese city of Wuhan. “They don’t really
understand what rights they have, or what kind of political future they
can choose.”
Their main Google group has more than online 1,200 users, though how
many are inside China is unclear. An online survey posted in February
received 300 responses, mostly from people in China, members said, and
the group gets 50 to 100 emails daily from participants in the country.
Outside China, members are in France, Australia, Canada, Korea and
Japan, among other countries. “Forest Intelligence” oversees the
recruitment of volunteers and maintains the website. “Xiaomo,” a
24-year-old college student in Paris, collates comments from surveys.
Boston-based student “Pamela Wang,” 18, translates news articles into
Chinese and is one of eight administrators of the group’s Facebook page.
The eight members in China include an expert in online search engines, a
former government employee who writes articles and someone who works on
the website’s layout, said Hua Ge. He refused to provide their contact
information or reveal details about them out of concerns for their
safety.
Hua Ge said the group also has consulted Wang Juntao, a prominent
dissident sentenced to 13 years in prison for advising students during
the 1989 pro-democracy protests centered on Tiananmen Square. Freed on
medical parole in 1993, Wang now lives in New York and confirmed his
assistance.
Collectively, the group’s postings are often clever with a touch of
sarcasm. People are urged to “stroll” and “smile” rather than protest.
“We are making a new history of revolution by a unique way: We use the
sound of laughter, singing and salutations instead of the sound of guns,
cannons and warplanes!” a notice dated March 1 said.
Online security is a major concern, and group members are constantly in
touch. On Sunday, Forest Intelligence showed an AP reporter his laptop,
on which was installed a virtual machine =E2= =80=94 an operating system
within the computer’s normal operating system that provides an extra
layer of protection against hackers.
As soon as he logged on, Skype and Gmails chat services blinked with new
messages. “Are you back yet?” wrote Xiaomo, who then relayed news that
activist-artist Ai Weiwei was prevented from getting on a flight to Hong
Kong. Less than an hour later, the news was posted on the group’s
website.
On Tuesday, the group released an Internet safety manual to help Chinese
users circumvent censors and issued another statement deploring the
current crackdown. It warned that if activists were not released by
April 10, they would retaliate by using “search engine optimization”
techniques so that when Chinese do online searches for names of
officials the results will link to reports about corruption.
The group has no illusions that change, if any, will come soon, but is
willing to wait years to gather momentum.
“Some people say this movement is going to die and this movement is not
going to be successful like that in Tunisia or Egypt, but in those
countries, it took three or four years for the people to make
preparations and finally, there was a peaceful transition,” Hua Ge said.
“It may take a period of time for the people to wake up, so the longer
we continue our efforts the more people will know about the situation
and join us.”
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